Re: *Your comments needed please*

[Cat Detective]

Quite late to this thread so sorry if it has already been mentioned, but can folk maybe not use the JustGiving site - you can set up payment to go to pretty much anywhere legit, and you get a ticker, and also gift aid. Might not always work but it might sometimes !

[Rainrescue]

We looked at using Justgiving but it would cost us £15.00 per month i think it is, and we didn't think we would get that much money donated to us from it.

Its ok for the larger charities who are well known to use it, or someone who is organising and promoting a big event or something, but for small groups - and also non reg. charities - its another pain i think

good idea tho

[Guest]

The original thread i started was for a particular animal in distress/ rescues requesting monies for said animal, for vet fees to be, hopefully, donated by generous RHU members, vet quotes to be included and ticker counter.

I'm still listening ....

[Rainrescue]

Good one Julie - so where do we go from here do you think?

[Guest]

Back to the template on the first post i made. If any rescues wish to ask for RHU donations/pledges for a said animal, this is the least we expect. If rescue face difficulties with this request then staff are at hand to help at all times.

[Cat Detective]

So if folk wish to donate, would it be ad hoc, or maybe a SO - so you had funds there if needed - I would plump for the latter myself, even if everyone did say £20 a month - would that work ?

[Rainrescue]

I think it needs to be a regular small amount by a lot of people - if people wanted to give more - then that would be fantastic - but nobody is pressured into any value at all.

But if we asked the 1500 members on here, if they would be prepared to give £2.00 pcm - by standing order, and add Gift Aid, that would add an extra 28p to every pound if the person was a tax payer.
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[Ian]

Personally I can't see vets wanting to administer anything except their own bills & I can't see why the forum needs / wants to do so either?

To me, it's simple a rescue has a dog, cat or whatever other animal that needs help and a vet that will provide it.

If they need to appeal for help they do so & any member can choose to support that appeal or not.

If the rescue ends up with more money than they needed I don't have a problem with that providing it's used for the next needy animal - anyone who thinks that all of the major charities aren't operating in exactly that manner is just deluding themselves!

I wouldn't however personally knowingly give any money I did have to give to any third party appeal pot - there will probably always be more animals in need than I can afford to help so to me it then just enables them to decide which dog I will or wont help with my money - why should I do that when I can retain that decision myself?

[Admin]

ian i agree to an extent decision wise, but many people in the past have been conned for want of a better word?

this way if it was done via rhu rhu would no how much money has been sent to the individual rescues, making sure that the smaller ones that really struggle, ones that take on poundies or whatever would stand more of a chance.

[Jacobean]

Vets won't give a report before treatment commences. The cost side can change so quickly. Just as an example Sandy the lab just had to have his spleen removed. We were quoted £300 and the bill actually came through at £650.86. There are some costs still to come through from follow up visits since.

So some of your template is fine but not all of it would work.

Vets aren't great on the admin side of things. Some of the time they won't set up an account and want to be paid on the spot. We deal with a number of vets like that. I have to ring them and give the debit card info. There is no way any of the vets we deal with would be happy with lots of payments coming through to pay off one bill.

It would work better if funds were given to the RHU pot and then when the donations cease send them to the rescue concerned. Or come to an agreement adhoc if the rescue happens to have no funds in to pay the bill,as some I guess would need it sooner. (Although any rescue taking a dog in should have funds to cover any eventuality and this actually should be helping them to be able to take in future dogs).

This all on the understanding that the rescue produces a copy of the vets bill to prove the amount of money spent on a particular dog. Most invoices by the way just give the name of the dog and don't state the breed so you wouldn't necessarily have proof of breed of dog etc. But it should be in the name of the rescue so you would know they had actually incurred costs of that amount.

I can only give examples from our experiences but I'm sure many rescues probably would hit the same kind of issues.